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Counterterrorism Expert Jeff Tiegs Talks to Us from On the Ground in Israel

Clay and Buck spoke to Jeff Tiegs, a counterterrorism and counterinsurgency expert with more than 25 years of service in US Army Special Operations, from Israel where he traveled to Gaza and also observed all the evidence from the October 7 attacks, which he describes as the most evil he’s ever seen in all of his years at war.

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